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KAMLOOPS STANDARD NEWSPAPER. In the Vancouver Daily News Advertiser of 16 May 1906, it reports that "a copy of the Kamloops "Standard" with the address label of an Aspen Grove subscriber would give the idea that the bandits worked in from the south." The subscriber in Aspen Grove was most likely Alonzo Roberts, or less likely it could have been William Dodds who owned the store there.

In direct competition with the Inland Sentinel, and of opposing political stripes, the Standard made a good cross reference with the Sentinel to the events of May and June 1906.

Freeman Harding was the editor of the paper in 1906.

Frederick E. Young bought the weekly Kamloops Standard newspaper in 1901. He married Chief Constable E.T.W. Pearse's daughter Edith.
He was killed cleaning his rifle in 1914 and the paper was then bought by Robinson and Harding.


In 1906 Warden KELLY13,378,379,380 was a prison warden in San Quentin Penitentiary in San Francisco, CA, USA. He was in Kamloops during the trial and identified Edwards as Bill Miner.

On the 30th of May 1906 at the trial of the Ducks robbers, Edwards swore in an affidavit to the Court that Warden Kelly had incorrectly identified him as Bill Miner, an "alleged well known criminal on the American side of the line." This chance meeting, allegedly arranged by Sup't Hussey of the B.C. Provincial Police, resulted in details of it being reported in the Vancouver Daily Province. While Miner was arriving at the Courthouse, shackled to a fellow prisoner, Warden Kelly, described by Edwards as "a large man with a grey moustache, accompanied by Hussey and in front of a crowd of on-lookers and the empanelled jury, stepped forward and said in a loud tone of voice "Hello, Bill, old pal, how are you."

As there was no proof available at the time that Edwards was Miner, defense lawyer Alec Mcintyre took the opportunity to protest this infringement on his client's rights.

Clark, Cecil. "Thousands in Loot", Daily Colonist weekend magazine "The Islander", Victoria B.C., 11 Nov 1962: 6
Clark states in his article that Kelly was holidaying in B.C. at the time of the Ducks robbery trial.

On July 7th, and on July 25th, 1906, B.C. Pen Warden Whyte received letters from the San Quentin State Prison in California. The first requested copies of the photos of the robbers, and the second extended thanks for the receipt of same. The signature of the sender is obscure, but looks like a F. H. De Pine, and he is noted as the "Director of the Criminal Bureau of Identification". On the letterhead is also noted the Warden of the penitentiary's name, but it is quite obscure. It looks like "J. W. Akins Warden". This is interesting, as it is not the same warden's name (Kelly) who possibly visited Kamloops during the trial and identified George Edwards as Miner. In the letter of the 25th, the writer notes that Miner's photo shows that he has aged considerably since the writer last saw him, but is still readily identifiable as "Billy Miner". (A. Martin Coll., Geo. Edwards Corr. file.)


Divisional Superintendent Thomas D KILPATRICK43,75,142,381,382 In 1906 he was a railway official in Revelstoke, B.C. with the C.P.R.1 He died in 1939. He directed the interests of the C.P.R. and actually took part in the pursuit of the robbers south of Kamloops. He spent considerable time and energy in Kamloops chasing the robbers of the C.P.R. train at Ducks.

In the Vancouver Daily Province of 9 May 1908, Marpole notes in an interview that Sup't Kilpatrick was in Kamloops that day to assist in the capture in any way the C.P.R. can assist.

In the Vancouver Daily News Advertiser of 16 May 1906, it notes that Sup't Marpole, in the company of Sup't Kilpatrick of Revelstoke, had gone out to meet the prisoners on their way in to Kamloops, and accompanied them to the Kamloops Gaol. Both C.P.R. officials appear in a buggy in the famous Mary Spencer photo of the party coming in to Kamloops. Kilpatrick sits in the back, while Marpole's socialite friend Gardiner-Johnson sits beside him.

Add. Mss. #0416
Mrs. Thomas Kilpatrick Fonds, B.C. Archives
On C.P.R. letterhead.
Form #106
Kamloops Station
(15?) May (1906?)
Dear Kinnie,
We landed three men in jail here today which I believe are the right ones, so now we can have a breathing space. I have not had much sleep since I left home, but the rush is over now. Mr. Marpole goes home tonight and wants me to stop until after the preliminary trial which is likely to take place tomorrow or the day after or as soon as the detectives can get a good strong case worked up. The suspects resisted arrest and one of them got into the brush and opened fire on the Mounted Police, and after the exchange of 15 or 16 shots the supposed robber got shot through the leg and fell. He was not seriously wounded. The ball passed through the fleshy part of the leg below the knee. Another tried to fill his (unintelligible … hand with a ?) gun but was covered by policemen before he had time to get it out.
Love to you and the babies,
Tell Alice we have had an exciting time and that I have had my first manhunt with a gun.
From your loving Tom.
(This letter looks like a photocopy and is the sole item in the file folder.)

In his report to Sup't Hussey of the  B.C. Provincial Police in June of 1906, Const. Pearse notes that Kilpatrick worked hard on the first day after the Ducks robbery hunting tracks along the railway line, and spent an additional two days with Pearse on the Campbell range.

Kilpatrick, Thomas, Revelstoke, Bridge foreman, KWRe (1898 VL)

The Revelstoke Museum and Archives advises that he was President of the Queen Victoria Hospital Board in 1902. RM&A states his middle initial as "D", while B.C. Archives states "O".

Okanagan Historical Society Journal,V48, Cawston
Kilpatrick wrote his wife a letter 25 May 1906 from Kamloops describing the capture of the Ducks robbers. Both Revelstoke and Victoria must be searched to see whether this information still exists. Subsequent searching found it, and the original document has also been found in the hands of a collector.

B.C. Archives
MS-0323
Provenance: Kilpatrick, Thomas O., d. 1939
Title: Thomas O. Kilpatrick fonds : 1893-1965
Dates: [Photocopied 1973]
Physical desc.: 3 cm of textual records
Bio/Admin History: Thomas O. Kilpatrick was a Superintendent of the Canadian Pacific Railway and a General Manager of the Pacific Great Eastern Railway in Revelstoke.
Scope/Content: The fonds consists of appointments, correspondence, subject files and a diary.
Title source: Title based on the contents of the fonds.
Record No.: Add. Mss 323
Repository: British Columbia Archives
Names: Kilpatrick, Thomas O., d. 1939
Canadian Pacific Railway Company
Pacific Great Eastern Railway
(These fonds trace Kilpatrick's career, particularly as a council member in Revelstoke after he retired from the railway business. There are none relating to the Duck's robbery.)

Spouse: Elsie MCKINNON. Divisional Superintendent Thomas D KILPATRICK and Elsie MCKINNON were married on 22 Apr 1903 in Revelstoke, B.C.


David KNAPP18,173 was born on 16 Oct 1890 in B.C. David Knapp is almost certainly the 16 or 17 year old boy interviewed by the Thiel Detective Agency "Operative 30" on the 14th of May 1906 at his step father Robert Pratt's farm out at Upper Campbell Creek.
"The Knapp boy. who lives with Mr. Pratt (Robert) next door to Todd's, Paul Stevens' father-in-law. This boy told Operator Calhoun that at 1:00 o'clock on the morning of the 9th inst., (nearly two hours after the robbery), Stevens came to bed with him at Pratt's house."

In the report of Operator No. 30's interview at the Todd and Pratt's place, he details the interviews with David Knapp and Mr. (James II) Todd.
"... called at the place of a Mr. Todd, near the (Upper) Campbell Creek post office. He found young Todd (David Knapp) at home and engaged him in conversation.
(Note: David Knapp was actually the stepson of Robert Pratt.)

Parents: Reignford KNAPP and Helena (Ellen) TODD. Parents: Robert PRATT and Helena (Ellen) TODD.


Ezra KNAPP was born on 1 Aug 1885 in B.C. Parents: Reignford KNAPP and Helena (Ellen) TODD. Parents: Robert PRATT and Helena (Ellen) TODD.


Nettie KNAPP was born on 7 Jan 1888 in B.C. Parents: Reignford KNAPP and Helena (Ellen) TODD. Parents: Robert PRATT and Helena (Ellen) TODD.


Reignford KNAPP.383 Reignford Knapp died young, however the circumstances and exact date are unknown.

Spouse: Helena (Ellen) TODD. Reignford KNAPP and Helena (Ellen) TODD were married on 17 Aug 1884 in Kamloops, B.C. Children were: Ezra KNAPP, Nettie KNAPP, David KNAPP.


Mary KROVENTKO was born in 1836 in Spuzzum, B.C. She died in 1932.

Spouse: Jesus GARCIA. Children were: John GARCIA.


In 1906 E. LA ROUX384,385 was a Shuswap Nation tracker from the Kamloops Reserve. He was with the Ducks robbery posse and was one of the Indian trackers responsible for the successful capture of the robbers. La Roux is first mentioned in F.W. Anderson's book.

La Roux's first name, first initial E, is most likely Eli, as it is common within that family.

A photocopy of the "Le Roux Family" Tree was obtained from the Secwepemc Museum and Archives. It notes that the original ancestor of the Le Roux family was Joseph La Roque, and supposedly his son was Abraham Le Roux. After his death??, his wife (daughter??) Marie (1858-1930) married Chief Louis (d1915) in 1889. They had sons Adam and Eli. Eli had sons Eli, Billy Felix, and William, and daughters Celestine and Kliza. Norman La Rue was this Eli's son. Perhaps the first Eli is the Ducks robbery tracker. (Has to have been born after 1889.)
Various spellings may be Lerue, Laroux, Larue, Le Roux, La Rue, Le Roux.

In Ruth Balf's Kamloops 1914 - 1945, she mentions an "Eli Larue, stepson of Chief Louie, and probably a descendant of Joseph La Toque, was elected chief. He retained this position until 1940 ..."


LAC LA HACHE. Lac La Hache is a valley extending from Bridge Creek (100 Mile House) to 150 Mile House. Telegraph office at 115 Mile House. Post office at 111 Mile House.
Postmaster - H.D. McLure

Shorty Dunn spent considerable time in this area before moving to Princeton.


LADNER. Henderson's 1905 Directory

Ladner
(Too many entries in directory to enter.)
Formerly Ladner's Landing
(See also Port Guichon and Delta)
An important town on the south bank of the Fraser River 5 miles from the mouth. It is the business centre of the municipality, New Westminster district, which contains 50,000 acres of the finest agricultural lands in the province. It has telephone and money order Post Office and savings bank. Mails daily except Sunday via CPN Company steamers from New Westminster. Nearest railway station telegraph office-Westminster- 12 miles. It has 14 salmon canneries, 1 sawmill, Episcopal, Methodist, Baptist, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic churches and 5 public schools. Has telephone connection with Vancouver, New Westminster and Seattle.
Population 1901 - 2,100

P138
Jordan, Joseph. Livery


Reverend LAMBOT D. D. was living in Nov 1907 in New Westminster, B.C. He presided over the retirement party of Deputy Warden Bourke in Nov. of 1907. At that time, the Reverend was acting Chaplain at the B.C. Pen. The party was held in the guard room. (NW Daily Columbian, 4 Nov 07, p1.)


 B.C. Provincial Police Constable A.W. LANE130,203 was living in Sep 1904 in Mission City , B.C. He was part of the Mission robbery and the B.C. Pen escape investigating team. B.C. Provincial Police Constable A.W. Lane was dispatched with three or four Special Constables on a special engine south across the Fraser towards the international boundary line to possibly intercept the Mission Junction train robbers there.

In the Van Prov of 12 Sep 1904, Beasley is noted as leaving Vancouver after 2:00 am on Sunday the 11th on a special train to make a "thorough investigation" on the spot at the robbery location. He was accompanied by Inspector McLeod of the C.P.R. police, Chief North of the (Vancouver) city police and Chief Campbell of the  B.C. Provincial Police. "Other officers in the party were Detective Scott, City Officers Hartney and Deptford, Provincial Officers Mono and Smith and others".
Lane is noted as going down, probably early Sunday morning, from Mission to Sumas in the Mission robbery investigation, and later in the day was joined by Detective McLeod and others.

After Miner's escape from the B.C. Pen in August of 1907, Lane was dispatched to Nicomen Island to follow up on the information that a local farmer, Des Roches, had given Miner breakfast three days after the escape. Lane was assigned Special Constables by the B.C. Provincial Police to assist him in the search of the Island. (Daily Columbian 14 Aug 07)


Prime Minister Sir Wilfred LAURIER113 quashed the hopes on the part of the Conservative opposition for any inquiry into Miner's escape.  Prime Minster Laurier is drawn into the debate on the escape of Miner in the late winter of 1909.

Wilfred Laurier (1896-1911)
- Liberal
- First French-Canadian Prime Minister.
- Offered transportation to Boer War for troops
- Created Department of External Affairs 1909
See http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/vavrr/p.m.fa~1.htm


In 1906 Conductor LAWSON was a railway conductor in Revelstoke, B.C.1 He kept the Ducks robbery passengers under control.


Reverend Father LE JUENE386 was living in 1905 in Kamloops, B.C. The B.C. Directory notes the initials OMI after his name. He is also noted as being the publisher of the Kamloops monthly Wawa, a Chinook Jargon newspaper.


Michel LECAMP169,387,388 was born about 1878. He died on 21 Oct 1908 in Kamloops, B.C.  A Michelle Lecamp was found on the B.C. Archives Death Index. He died in the "Kamloops District" at age unknown. He was also known as Lakima or Lakemp. He was one of the Indian trackers responsible for the successful capture of the robbers.  He was a member of Fernie and Pearse's posse and he found the camp above Campbell's Meadows. His picture is found in the famous posse photograph by Mary Spencer.
B.C. Arch Death Index notes a Michel (sometimes spelt Michelle) Lecamp dying at an unknown age in 21 Oct 1908.
Further research has determined that Michelle was murdered under mysterious circumstances by a renegade who escaped across the American border. More research should be done on this incident.


Albert LEE389 was affected by the Mission robbery as he had his boat stolen by the escaping robbers. Lee was a farmer living close to where the Mission Junction robbers left the robbed train. The writer Don Waite mentions his name as "Alex" Lee.
The New Westminster Columbian also states his first name as Albert.


Mary LEONARD, the native Indian wife of Lewis Campbell, was born on 16 Apr 1845 in Fort George, B.C.390 She died in 1911 in Kamloops, B.C.

Spouse: Lewis CAMPBELL Senior. Lewis CAMPBELL Senior and Mary LEONARD were married bfr 1871 in Kamloops, B.C. Children were: Martha CAMPBELL, Lewis Jr CAMPBELL, Walter CAMPBELL, Reid CAMPBELL, Nettie CAMPBELL, Mary Jane CAMPBELL, Ulysses CAMPBELL, Henrietta CAMPBELL, Wilhelmina CAMPBELL.


Outlaw Bill LEROY391 was an accessory to Bill Miner on previous stagecoach and railroad robberies who was caught and lynched after a failed robbery.


On 10 Sep 1904 WF LONGLI392 was a C.P.R. mail clerk during the Mission robbery.


In 1904 W. F. LOUGH389 was a mail clerk from Vancouver when the C.P.R. was robbed at Mission. Clerk Lough, together with Clerk Thorburn, were in the mail car which was robbed by Miner and his gang. The registered mail sack was taken from this car.


Rosie LOVE393 saw Miner and Dunn near the Pioneer Cemetery on River Street in May of 1906 in Kamloops, B.C. She submitted a witness statement to C.P.R.'s Detective McLeod.

In a letter of 23 May 1906 to McLaws of C.P.R. Special Service Dept., W. McLeod of the same Dept. writes,
"I interviewed Mrs. Rosie Love of Kamloops who states that on Monday May 7th at about 10:30 am she saw a man riding one horse and leading another come up from the North side of the cemetery (Pioneer Cemetery on River Street?) cross the track, evidently going into town, today she identified small horse as the one ridden, but did not notice lead horse enough to remember same, did not see riders face but remembered his appearance perfectly (?) and on seeing Dunn in the Goal today she is sure his appearance answers the same. She also noticed after he had passed with the horses that an elderly man followed up and remained near North West corner of cemetery looking around, identified Edwards as the man, but he wore a dark slouch hat well worn and drooping and had about one weeks growth of beard. She is positive he is the same man she saw there May 7th 1906 she was busy scrubbing and did not see the parties again."

McLeod made a thorough canvas of the neighbourhood at the east end of town, but could find no one else to give further information.


LOWER NICOLA. Lower Nicola
(See also Coutlee)
A post settlement on the Nicola-Kamloops Road in the Nicola Valley in the Yale District. Nearest railway station and telegraph office Spence's Bridge, distance 35 miles. Mail bi-weekly. It is reached by the Kamloops and Spence's Bridge mail stage twice a week. Has Methodist church and public school
Postmaster - R.M. Woodward.
Armstrong, J.B. and Company. General merchants.
Bernard, Joseph. Farmer.
Collett, Alfred. Farmer.
Dodding, David. Rancher and Dairyman
Fyald. Clerk
Gordon, Alexander. Farmer
Johnston, Parry. Labourer
Johnston, Robert. Labourer
Patrick, James. Labourer.
Lindley, George, Labourer.
Lindley, Henry. Retired.
Lindley, John. Farmer.
McGregor, George. Carpenter.
Manning, John. Farmer
Moul C. Labourer.
Ogelvie. Farmhand
Richardson, Edward. Farmer.
Royal, John J. Chival. Miner.
Smith, James. Blacksmith.
Strobb, H.T. Miner and Prospector
Thibideau, Peter. Labourer.
Willson, John. Farmer
Woodward, R. Marcus. general merchant, sawmill and postmaster
Woodward, Clarence. Farmer
Woodward, Frank B. Farmer
Woodward, Fred. Farmhand.
Woodward, Harvey H. Farmer
Woodward, Henry. Farmer
Woodward, James. Farmer
Woodward, Norman. Herder.
Woodward, S.J. General store.
Woodward, William E. farmer.


Mary Isabel LYLE197,265 was born about 1879. She died on 16 Feb 1964 in Victoria, B.C. She was the wife of B.C. Provincial Police Constable Fernie during his pursuit of Bill Miner in May of 1906.

Spouse: Constable William Lewis FERNIE. Constable William Lewis FERNIE and Mary Isabel LYLE were married on 11 Sep 1905 in Kamloops, B.C.265


Alexander Finlay MACKENZIE26,31,36,74,394 was a trapper in Princeton, B.C. around May of 1906. He heard Jack Budd galloping back with extra horses from the Kamloops area after Ducks robbery. Margaret Stoneberg of the Princeton Museum relates that a "Laird" MacKenzie, a rancher, said he heard Jack Budd returning hell-for-leather from Kamloops the night of the train robbery at Ducks with several horses. This Laird MacKenzie is the same person as Alexander McKenzie.

Constable Hunter of Princeton noted in his report to Sup't Hussey the following:
On 15 April 1906 Edwards and Budd were seen by MacKenzie by his ranch at One Mile Creek and about 13 miles north of Princeton. Each had a saddle horse and two pack horses. They stopped at the next ranch about one mile from MacKenzie's owned by Christopher Burkstead.

From the Princeton book. p 453. Submitted by Janelle Ceccon.
Alexander Finlay MacKenzie was born Mar 1856 in Scotland. He was a good friend of Alec Broomfield, who kept his mail at his hotel for him. In his correspondence with his relatives back in Scotland, MacKenzie led his relatives to believe he was a "lord" or "Laird" of a large holding in Canada. He owned property near what was then called Turkey, or Blue or MacKenzie and now Laird Lake. He lived there alone and trapped for a living. He died in 1942.

This confirms that Stoneberg's "Laird" is indeed Alexander MacKenzie.


W.H. MALKIN389 was a passenger on the train robbed at Mission. He hid his valuables and assisted in barricading the coach against the robbers. Malkin was a passenger on the train robbed at Mission Junction. At that time he was a well known businessman in Vancouver in the wholesale grocery business. He went on to become a Mayor of Vancouver.

Malkin was an occupant of the Pullman car, and described the confusion that took place among the passengers when word of the robbery was passed on to them. (New Westminster Columbian 12 Sep 04)


Margaret MANSON18,125 died in 1864 in Kamloops, B.C. She was born on 1 Jun 1874 in B.C. In the B.C. Archives, and on her marriage information, she is noted as "Maggie". In the Census, Maggie is noted as being of Scots extraction. Parents: William MANSON.

Spouse: James (III) TODD. James (III) TODD and Margaret MANSON were married on 1 Jan 1896 in Kamloops, B.C.


William MANSON.383 William Manson, fur trader, served at the fort in Kamloops in the 1850s and 60s before settling at Lac La Hache in the Cariboo.

Children were: Margaret MANSON.


General Superintendent Richard MARPOLE13,37,39,43,75,130,395,396,397,398 was born in 1850 in Wales, England. In the 1907 Voter’s List he is noted as living at the corner of Hastings and Hornby Streets in Van. He was with the C.P.R. Pacific Division in Vancouver. He died on 8 Jun 1920 in Vancouver, B.C. He was in Kamloops with his private railway car monitoring the pursuit and trial of the robbers. He directed the C.P.R. interests during the Mission robbery investigation.

 

"Richard Marpole, the C.P.R. western superintendent after whom the district (in Vancouver) was named in 1916. Born in 1850 in Wales, he started railroading at age 18, and assumed the general superintendent's office after the retirement of Henry Abbott. He resigned that post in 1907, and died in 1920 in Vancouver."
(Vancouver The Way It Was, p183)

1898 Voter's List
In 1898, Marpole was Superintendent of the C.P.R. in Kamloops.

B.C. VOTERS LIST 1898 - Mar to Maz
from the Sessional Papers of the British Columbia Government, 1899
extracted by Hugh Armstrong,
http://www.rootsweb.com/~canbc/vote1898/votemar.htm
Marpole, Richard, Kamloops, Abbott St, N. side, Superintendent C.P.R., YN (Yale North Riding, Kamloops.)

The day that the Mission robbery occurred, Marpole was in Victoria. (New Westminster Columbian, 12 Sep 04)

The Vancouver Province interviewed General Superintendent Marpole on the afternoon of Monday 12 Sep 1904, and Marpole advised them that he had issued a reward notice of $1000 for information on the robbers. This reward was later increased to $5,000 and a further $1,000 for information leading to the arrests.

In the Daily Columbian of New Westminster for 20 Sep 1904, Lord Shaughnessy gave a brief comment on the Mission robbery, (p1) and on page 3 there was a lengthy column on a meeting of C.P.R. officials in Vancouver.
Shaughnessy arrived in Vancouver Sunday (18th) evening with his two private cars; the "Cornwall" and the "York". In these cars with Shaughnessy were Sir George Drummond, VP of the Bank of Montreal and a director of the C.P.R.; R. B Angus and E. B. Osler of Toronto and C. R. Hosmer of Montreal. William Whyte, then 2nd VP of the C.P.R., arrived in his car the "Manitoba" from Winnipeg. With him was the C.P.R.'s chief engineer Mr. Tye.
Western divisional general superintendent R. M. Marpole's private car #10 was occupied by Marpole, Superintendent H. E. Beasley, engineers Cambie and Webster, and Mr. and Mrs. C. G. Henshaw.
Shaughnessy advised the reporter that the meeting that took place on Monday the 19th was to discuss expansion plans for the railway in B.C. He noted that the C.P.R. had spent $31,000,000 on repairs and improvements since the previous January, and when questioned about the issuance of a further $25,000,000 in stock, he noted that this was for improvements to the line west of Winnipeg.
Shaughnessy and his party left later that afternoon on a steamer for Victoria.

Marpole's private car number was #10. (Daily Columbian 20 Sep 1904)

On 9 May 1906, Marpole gave his first of many interviews to the Vancouver Daily Province. He described details of the robbery, and expressed confidence in the eventual capture of the bandits.

After the Ducks robbery, Marpole would naturally have discussed the situation with his superior, Vice President Whyte in Winnipeg. It was Whyte who requested of the federal government that the R.N.W.M.P. be called in to assist the B.C. Provincial Police.

In the Vancouver Daily News Advertiser of 16 May 1906, it notes that Sup't Marpole, in the company of Sup't Kilpatrick of Revelstoke, had gone out to meet the prisoners on their way in to Kamloops, and accompanied them to the Kamloops Goal. Both C.P.R. officials appear in a buggy in the famous Mary Spencer photo of the party coming in to Kamloops.

Victoria Daily Colonist 18 May 06, p1
After the successful capture of the Ducks robbers, Marpole gave a statement to the press of B.C. It appeared in all the major papers of the day, and in it he called for a mounted troop of police, similar to the R.N.W.M.P., to be stationed at critical locations throughout B.C. This would supposedly thwart further predation on the C.P.R. He also criticized the influx of "the large number of tough characters who are coming into the Interior from the South." He went on to call for bloodhounds to be kept in Canada to pursue fugitives and robbers, and praised the American handlers of the hounds brought in by the C.P.R. from Spokane. (Harry Drake and his assistant Thomas Hopper). Hussey and A. G. Fulton would later decide against keeping bloodhounds for this purpose in Canada, as it was not considered the "Canadian way".

On the 12 June 1906, B.C. Pen Warden Whyte wrote C.P.R. Gen. Sup't Marpole in Vancouver that he had, at Marpole's request, sent to him copies of the photos of the three robbers under separate cover. The photos of the three were taken shaven and unshaven, and Whyte cautioned Marpole, as he did with all other recipients of the photos, that they were not for publication without the prison administration's permission. He went on to note that C.P.R. Special Service Detective Bullick had also requested copies of the photographs, and asked Marpole to pass copies on to him. (A. Martin Coll., Geo. Edwards Corr. file.)

On 13 June 1906 Marpole received a letter from C.P.R. 2nd VP W. Whyte congratulating him on the capture of the Ducks robbers, and encloses another congratulatory letter from the President of the Dominion Express Co.

After the incarceration of the three Ducks robbers, Marpole continued to pursue other possible accessories to the robbery. He sends a letter to Hussey 4 Jul 1906 with information on Tom Arnold in Princeton after receiving letters from C.P.R. Inspector Bullick and the Thiel Detective Service's Seavey. They mention Tom Arnold as continuing to be a suspect in the Mission robbery.

In a letter to Whyte 19 July 1906, he notes that if possible, Budd and the other Miner confederates should be put away. He also reveals that there is other evidence to show that Dunn was involved in the Mission robbery, and that his alibi of being in the Cariboo country at that time does not hold up. He feels confident, however, that the three ringleaders of the Mission robbery, Miner, Dunn and Colquhoun, are now in custody. He goes on to criticize the lack of interest the Provincial Government spends on the "desperado element of the residents of Yale and Kootenay districts", and plans to have a "quiet talk with the executive." (B.C. Govt.)

Marpole criticizes B.C. Provincial Police Sup't Hussey and Const. Hewat and Hunter in Princeton and attaches copies of their letters and reports to Whyte. He describes the B.C. Provincial Police force and it's activities as "this peculiar feature of careless indifferent espionage and treatment of the criminals of other countries by our Constabulary". What he is probably concerned about is Hewat's report to Hussey where Hewat describes working alongside types such as Arnold and Budd, and the easy familiarity with which he approaches them. It was probably difficult for the urbanized Marpole, one of the pillars of society in Vancouver and markedly isolated from the other classes, to understand the relationships and inter-dependence of the early settlers, miners and ranchers in the interior upon each other, regardless of each others social standing.
The B.C. Provincial Police were very understaffed in B.C.'s southern interior at a time when mining, building of railroads and the development of other natural resources was often funded, developed and exploited by Americans from Washington and Idaho.
This is the first source which tries to tie, unsuccessfully, Colquhoun and Dunn to the Mission robbery. Marpole's conclusions are based on the results of investigations carried out subsequent to the Ducks robbery.

The birth/death/marriage have to be confirmed. (B.C. Arch data) Did he really marry that late in life (54???).

Spouse: Anna Isabel HOLMES. General Superintendent Richard MARPOLE and Anna Isabel HOLMES were married on 16 Sep 1905 in Victoria, B.C.


Matilda MARQUART399 was born in 1892. Matilda (Wilma) Marquart was the mother of interviewee Gordon Heslop. Matilda married a Thomas Heslop of Nicola 6 June 1924 in the church at Nicola. Thomas Heslop was a butcher and a Warden of the church there.
Matilda's father was Peter Marquart, who had married a Marie Maas.
Matilda was born 1892 on the SX Ranch, which was located on the right side of the highway between Merritt and Aspen Grove and near Corbett Lake. Her older brother Simon was born in 1890. The log buildings are still standing. Corbett Lake and Courtenay Lakes are on the left as you travel east. Peter Marquart ran an irrigation ditch down from Marquart Lake to the part of the SX Ranch that was summer meadow for his horses. He raised horses and drove them to Great Falls Montana to sell to the US Cavalry.
The Marquart mother and father are buried at the cemetery at Nicola.

It was probably in the winter of 1905-1906 that when Miner was living in Budd's cabin near Aspen Grove, he made acquaintance with the Marquart Family, which lived not that far from Dodd's store at Aspen Grove. He ran into the father as he was soaking hides in Mathew Lake (close to Garcia Lake) on SX Ranch property. Miner, as George Edwards, rode up to him and offered to make shoes for Marquart's son and daughter in trade for a strip of bull hide to repair the stirrups on a saddle he was using. The rancher took him up on the offer and Matilda would tell the story of the notorious cobbler to her own children in later years. Miner learned to cobble shoes in San Quentin.

In the Nicola Valley Historical Quarterly of December 1989 (Vol. 9-No.4 page 7) is an article on Peter Marquart by his grandson Gordon Heslop. (The writer interviewed Mr. Heslop in the winter of 2006 in the company of Larry Tyssen previous to discovering this article.)

In the Quarterly article Mr. Heslop gives considerable detail about his grandfather. Peter Marquart was born in Denmark on 13 June 1862. He left Denmark in 1975 at age 13, and eventually acquired the Courtenay Lake (Corbett Lake) Ranch. He had a stepbrother Mathew Marquart. Peter married Marie Maas in 1889 when he was 27. Together they had children Simon (1890), Matilda (1891), Agnes (1894), Minnie, Gertrude and Edward. Two others who died young are buried in the Murray churchyard cemetery at Nicola. They are a boy who died in 1893 and a girl who died in 1895.
After 1896, Peter bought a ranch in Nicola Lake that is now part of the Chutter Ranch. He also bought a livery and stage line from M.P. Stewart. Marquart died in Merritt in 1943.
(The following is verbatim from the article.)

"Bill Miner made shoes for the three older Marquart children, Simon, Matilda and Agnes. He traded them to Peter Marquart for a particularly strong bull hide Peter was tanning in Marquart Lake one fall. It was Miner's plan to use the hide to make rifle scabbards. Like many, Peter was surprised to find out Bill Miner had a habit of robbing trains. He did say the man surely was a good judge of horses."


E. MARRIOTT400 played cards with Miner in Marriott's poolroom after the Mission robbery.  From at least Sep 1904 to May 1906 he was a pool room proprietor in Chilliwack, B.C. He gave witness information on the Mission Junction robbery to the American private detective hired by the C.P.R. Marriott ran a pool room in Chilliwak at the time George Edwards was there in the fall of 1904. Thiel operative #38 interviewed him on 24 May 1906 for the Ducks robbery investigation. Marriott picked out Edwards' photograph, and commented that he had played cards a great deal in his establishment while he had been in the area. He added that Missouri Bill (C.P.R. undercover operative) had often played cards with Edwards at that time. Edwards, while playing cards, always sat with his back to the wall and kept a sharp watch on the door and everyone who entered.


On 8 May 1906 H. W. MARTIN was a baggage man in Ducks, B.C. He was part of the train crew held up at Ducks.  From Vancouver, he was with the conductor, Sam Elliott, when train #97 was being held up C.P.R. baggageman at the Ducks robbery.


Emma MATHEWS was born on 3 Nov 1867.401

Spouse: James George Currie (Currie) SCHISLER. James George Currie (Currie) SCHISLER and Emma MATHEWS were married in 1891 in Ontario. Children were: Myrtle Edith SCHISLER, Millie (Mildred) Irene SCHISLER, Frederick Clifford SCHISLER, George Ivan SCHISLER.


Premier Sir Richard MCBRIDE402,403 was born on 15 Dec 1868 in Victoria, B.C. He was Premier of B.C. in 1906. 

S.W. Jackman in his "Portraits of the Premiers" likened the Honourable Sir Richard McBride to "Gladstone taking office in England in 1868 for thereafter the lines were firmly drawn and the old ways vanished."
The following is either paraphrased or verbatim from Jackman’s work.  Jackman described the province of B.C. as the fairy princess who, having pricked her finger, lived but was sound asleep. Her prince, McBride, arrived on 1 June 1903 when he was first elected to office, and woke the sleeping maiden. After McBride, all the old patterns of political life disappeared, as he instituted the idea of direct political affiliation for a government and its supporters.
McBride was the first Premier to be born in British Columbia. He was the third of three sons and had two sisters. His father was a police officer when they moved to New Westminster, and later became warden of the federal penitentiary.
On Dominion Day in 1885, at age 15, McBride, with 3 other young boys, were reported for indecent exposure by some ladies at a picnic who witnessed the boys stripping down and swimming in the buff. McBride's father hired a prominent law firm and the boys escaped prosecution.
McBride studied at Dalhousie University with assistance from his older brother William. Soon after passing his bar examinations New Westminster in 1892, he went north to Atlin, B.C. He became a specialist in mining law and was successful in earning enough money ($4,000) to serve as a stake for his entry into politics.
His first attempt at politics, as a federal Conservative in July 1896 was unsuccessful. That same year he married Christina McGillivary of New Westminster. In 1898 he ran in the provincial election for the riding of Dewdney and was successful. This was a very turbulent period in B.C. politics, and while McBride had run as a supporter of the then Premier John Turner, by the time the legislature was to sit, McBride found himself as a member of the opposition.
McBride and his wife Christina continued to promote McBride's political career, and the charming and agreeable young couple moved in all the right circles in Victoria. Richard continued to win in elections, and was particularly interested in maintaining B.C.'s connection with the British Empire, and favoured closer connections between Canada and the mother country.
B.C. politics followed it's normal path of intrigue and conspiracy in those early years of the century. McBride's father advised him to "resign everything but your honour", which McBride did. He joined the opposition against the Dunsmuir government and became an effective voice for the opposition.
At the Conservative Party convention in Revelstoke in 1902, McBride failed to get the official leadership of the provincial party, but did achieve the de facto leadership in all but name. Also, the convention did take steps that McBride would put into future practice. The convention took the first steps towards advocating particular party allegiance for provincial administrations.
In 1902 McBride, when the government was dismissed, was called upon by the Lieutenant-Governor to form a government. He was the youngest man ever to become Premier of British Columbia. On June 2 he informed the house that he intended to construct his government along strict party lines as a Conservative.
The former governments of Dunsmuir and EG Prior had left the finances of the province in a horrible mess. McBride, after a brief meeting of the legislature, and a review of the budget estimates, dissolved the legislature and called for the election of the Conservative Party, who, he maintained, would return B.C. to fiscal responsibility and prosperity.
Though McBride was to win a majority of only one seat, his style and political expertise enabled him to slowly but firmly gain mastery of the house, without having to cajole the dreaded Socialists for support.
McBride's first government was faced with a financial crisis due to a current recession and the credit of the province was at one of its lowest points. Provincial expenses were cut back and no new debts were assumed. Minor scandals and economic false starts created pressures on both the government and the provincial economy. The federal Conservatives pondered disassociation from the provincial upstarts.
However, gradually "Glad Hand Dick", as he came to be called for his promoting ways, and his government, managed to turn things around. Prosperity started to return, mining activity increased, railway construction accelerated, the forest industry caught it's second wind and the influx of Immigrants all served to help B.C. back to it's economic feet, and to enhance the fortunes of McBride and his fledgling provincial Conservative Party.
The perceived federal disinterest and disdain for the Pacific Province was prevalent in both voter and party circles at this time. McBride was to utilize a tool used by many future party leaders in B.C., the "Fight Canada" cry for more recognition and largess from Ottawa. He exhorted the federal government to provide "Better Terms" for B.C., and did not hesitate in his criticism of Ottawa's ignorance and rejection of British Columbians. This was a popular stance with most citizens, and served to increase his popularity.
McBride was a consummate politician. He understood his constituency, and indeed believed that all of British Columbia was his constituency. He toured the province extensively, he was charming and gracious everywhere. He shamelessly promoted himself and his party, and the voters, and they, knowing that they were being promoted, accepted it and thrived within it. He always remained courteous and acted in the best of taste, and "the peoples Dick" enjoyed a popularity not before equaled in B.C.
The Kamloops lawyer Frederick Fulton was an integral part of McBride's government. First elected at the turn of the century, he was to serve in McBride's governments as Provincial Secretary and Minister of Education. In 1905, Fulton was made Attorney General and Chief Commissioner of Lands and Works in McBride's government.
In 1905 McBride was put to the test. He boarded the train in B.C., and proceeded west to meet that other consummate politician, Sir Wilfred Laurier, Prime Minister and leader of the ruling Liberal Party. Both exerted all their charms in the service of diplomacy and coercion, but Laurier held all the cards and had the largest pot. Then, as now, central and eastern Canada held all the votes any federal government would need, and the concerns of and cries for help from a province at the far west end of the railway line were not high on Laurier's to-do list. McBride was unsuccessful in extracting any concessions from the federal government, and so turned to that other font of investment for B.C.; the United States. There he convinced eastern financiers in New York to invest in British Columbia.
The results of McBride's trip to the East served to further strengthen his "Fight Canada" policies, and these beliefs were confirmed by Laurier at future federal-provincial conferences where Laurier continued to refuse subsidies to British Columbia.
That spring of 1906 saw Frederick Fulton, MLA for Kamloops and Attorney General, served as prosecutor in Kamloops at the trial of Bill Miner and his gang of robbers. By early June the robbers had been successfully prosecuted and sentenced to the B.C. Penitentiary.
McBride called a snap election for 2 February 1907. The election was fought over Ottawa's perceived rejection of B.C.'s needs and Ottawa's failure to bring the Grand Trunk Railway to B.C. McBride took the position that all who were opposed to him were opposed to the future growth and success of British Columbia. McBride's provincial constituents supported him, and he now had a majority in the provincial legislature. In a House with 42 seats, 27 were McBride's Conservatives.
It was sometime prior to this that Attorney General Fulton resigned from McBride's cabinet. While official reasoning is difficult to find, some sources say it was the result of disagreements with McBride over the route the Grand Trunk should follow going through Kamloops, and the rumoured cronyism and corruption in the decision making process for railway matters.
McBride had a cabinet shake up subsequent to the resignation of Fulton and the 1907 election. He appointed W.J. Bowser as Attorney General, and he was later to succeed McBride as Premier.
McBride continued to win elections and impress both voters and foreign politicians and dignitaries. He received considerable recognition from everyone at the Colonial Conference in London with the exception of Laurier. He and his wife were invited to the coronation of George V and Queen Mary at Westminster Abbey, and both rural and urban voters continued to endorse his policies and methods. McBride was ultimately knighted in recognition of his work to promote ties with England, and was the only B.C. Premier to receive that distinction. In the midst of all this public success, McBride and his wife Christina were to lose their only son in infancy, a private sorrow tempering all future recognition.
The years before the Great War were less smooth for McBride and his Conservatives. Recession again set in, and the political scene was becoming less smooth. Agitation by the Socialist opposition, race riots and pressure from the unions to limit or stop immigration of the Chinese and East Indians created consternation and distasteful and reluctant legislation.
The early war years, gave McBride a brief respite from the regular pressures of normal B.C. politics. He purchased two submarines from the American Navy, for which he was to acquire enduring fame. He was a confidant of Canada's wartime Prime Minister Borden, and a great friend of Winston Churchill. He travelled to London where he mixed with British cabinet ministers and had an audience with the King. He reveled in the peculiarities of his position as a provincial premier in such august surroundings, and relished all the attention showered upon him, and through him, the province of British Columbia .
However, all was not roses as his Attorney General of the day, William Bowser, was making criticisms of McBride's railway policies and his purchase of the American submarines. The pressures began to take their toll upon him. Upon his return to Victoria from California in 1913 , where he was given an honorary degree, his intimates were to see the first signs of his deterioration.
By 1915 he was in poor health and found it increasingly difficult to cope with the every day demands of government, and the pressures of the suffragettes and prohibitionists. On the 15th of December that year, on his forty-fifth birthday, he resigned.
He left Victoria in January 1916 to the accompaniment of well wishers, parades and bands. He crossed the country and bade his farewell to friends, embarked for Britain and settled in London. He enjoyed his life in Britain as Agent General of B.C., where he continued to serve as a representative of the province he loved, but his health continued to decline. He resigned his post in May of 1917, and hoped to return to his native province. However, such was not to be, and Richard McBride's time was running out. He died on 6 August, 1917 in his forty-seventh year.

S.W. Jackman in his "Portraits of the Premiers" ends his portrait of McBride in the most glowing terms. "He was a fine Canadian example of the Edwardian gentlemen. He expressed the thoughts of those who promoted B.C. and it's future but he was no idealist. He saw nothing wrong with opposing Oriental immigration, although the grounds upon which he did so were specious, because he was acting in accord with the views of his fellow citizens and he felt it proper to do so. As a practical man he believed that patronage was a natural part of politics." He was perhaps too generous to his friends but did not enrich himself in the process. Indeed, in 1918 the Legislature had to vote a sum of $5,000 to Lady McBride and his children to support them in his absence. "Richard McBride was always at his best on the platform, elegant, handsome and charming, at ease with everyone. Nobody could long remain his enemy."
McBride's contribution to politics in British Columbia were obvious to all. By establishing the concept of party government for B.C., he ended the old highly unstable system that had existed since Confederation. "He set a pattern for political leadership which survived long after his own day. After his tenure the province came to expect that their leaders should have some style and some real elan."
"Richard McBride was undoubtedly the most significant figure produced by the province of British Columbia to his own day; certainly he was, and remains, the most significant Conservative ever to hold the office of Premier of British Columbia and he may well be the most significant Conservative in the history of the province in it's first century."

Williams' Pinkerton's
McBride, a Conservative, became Premier of B.C. in 1903 at the age of 32, the youngest person ever to head a provincial government. In 1906 he was under attack because of government railway policy. McBride hired the Pinkerton's to spy on the former Prime Minister Tupper, Bowser and other Conservative stalwarts. Bowser was later brought into cabinet as Attorney General in 1907, and the crisis toned down.
McBride paid for the Pinkerton's out of his own pocket, and when he died, he was virtually penniless.

Much of the above information is verbatim from http://www.knowbc.com/pages/fessays.html


Prisoner Albert F. MCCLUSKEY134,172,404 was a fellow escapee with Miner from the B.C. Pen. He had been sentenced to 7 years for shoplifting.

The New Westminster Columbian for 9 Aug spells his last name as McCluskey, but other sources spell it as McKluskey. He along with Miner and two others escaped from the B.C. Pen 8 Aug 1907. McCluskey had been sentenced to seven years for stealing and shop lifting in Vancouver. He had served four years of his sentence when he escaped. He had been working with the other three escapees in the Penitentiary brickyard immediately prior to the escape. McCluskey was described by the paper as a man of medium height, with a dark complexion.
He had pursued a lengthy career of crime in Vancouver. His last caper was to break into a store there where he was confronted by night watchman Dan Harrison at the point of a revolver. As a result he ended up in the Pen.

In the New Westminster Columbian of 10 Aug 1907, he was rumoured to have been spotted in the barroom of the Gladstone Hotel in Vancouver, one of his favourite haunts, where he had been calling for beer. This occurred (the evening of the 9th?) and the Vancouver Police were busy following up on the lead, staking out the several places which were McCluskey's frequent hang-outs.

The Vancouver Daily News Advertiser of 11 Aug 04 tells rather a different story of the encounter with McCluskey. The paper interviewed the proprietor of the Gladstone Hotel on Vancouver Road. He was awakened Friday morning (Aug 9th) by a man who said he had been out all night and needed a beer. The proprietor of the hotel served him, but when it came time to pay, the man said he was broke and left, heading towards Vancouver. A few hours later the hotel man heard the story of the prison break and the description of the escapees. he was headed to Vancouver when he spotted that same customer ahead of him. As the hotel man approached, the suspect ducked into the brush beside the road. On driving up to that same spot, the hotelman peered into the brush and spotted the same man that he had served that morning. He reported the sighting to the police, and his description of the thirsty traveller was so detailed that the police had no doubt but that he was McCluskey.

New Westminster Columbian 15 Aug 07, p1
There was a positive report of McCluskey's whereabouts on Westham Island. On 14 Aug 07, his socks, marked with his convict number 142, were found and identified by Bourke. The paper speculated that this report probably puts to rest the theory he had been in the Gladstone Hotel on the night of the 9th. However, the relationship of Westham Island to the location of the Gladstone Hotel will have to be checked to determine the possibilities.


Neil B. MCFADDEN1,121,405,406  was living in 1906 in Princeton, B.C. He lent one of his horses to Shorty Dunn before the robbery.

In Dep. AG McLean's letter to McIntyre 22 May 1906, he notes that "N.B. McPhadden (sic) of Princeton will testify that the prisoners or one of them hired from him one or more of the horses which were found astray South of the Railway after the commission of the robbery".
It was Dunn who borrowed McFadden's horse.

In the 1907 VL there exists a Neil B. McFadden, carpenter, in Hedley, B.C.

In the 29 May 06 issue of the Vancouver World (p1) the paper gives McFadden's testimony at the trial the day previously, the 28th. He recognized Dunn and Edwards in the courtroom as men he had known in Princeton. Dunn had borrowed a horse from him on March 28 that had a block M branded on it, and McFadden described the horse to the court. When he was taken out to the yard of the court house, he was shown a horse with a white face and legs, and McFadden declared, "That's my horse". McFadden testified that Dunn had told him that he needed the horse for a three week prospecting trip. McFadden went on to state that Dunn had been around Princeton and Hedley for several years and Edwards for about two years, but McFadden hadn't seen him until February of 1906.

McFadden wrote to Hussey from Princeton 16 May 1906 to attempt to regain possession of his horse(S).
"is there a horse among the horses taken from the train robbers answering the following descriptions One bay horse weigh about 900 lbs Branded M on Right Sholdr and one White hind leg if so Kindly let me no as i Loaned Dunn this horse about the last of march to go on a prospecting trip for about three weeks and this is the first i have heard of either since if the horse is there What steps must i take to Recover him"
"Kindly Oblidg
NB McFadden
Princeton B.C."

In DAG McLean's closing argument notes, he states that McFadden, on 28 March, lent Dunn the bay horse for three weeks for a prospecting trip. Graves subsequently identified the horse as the one he had found. (This was one of the hobbled horses found by JB Greaves, and was subsequently used by the posse to relieve their own spent mounts during the chase after the robbers.)


Detective W.A. MCFOY57,78,407  was with the C.P.R. Special Service in Calgary, AB. He was part of the Ducks robbery investigation team. He was also known as W H FOY in some sources.

VProv, 4 June 1906
Hussey in an interview with the Province said McFoy was with the C.P.R. Special Service police and was from Calgary.

McFoy was in Kamloops assisting with the Ducks robbery investigation, and drove out east of Kamloops by buggy on the 23 May to interview Buse, Taite and Hickson. Only Taite could provide a good identification of the three robbers.

B.C. Archives, GR0-419, Bo 117, File 1906/88, Attorney General Crown Prosecutor files, 19 May 1906.
The Thiel detective L. Calhoun and C.P.R. Special Services Agent McFoy, guided by Fred Carter and driven by Richard Blair, made an investigation of the two camps found by the posse early in the chase. Both Blair and Carter were former posse members so were familiar with the locations. The agent's report refers to McFoy as "Foy" but it is obvious he is referring to this C.P.R. detective.

A report dated 19 May 1906, sent by the initials "L. C." to an unknown source, presumably B.C. Provincial Police Sup't Hussey, gives a detailed description of the items found at Camps 1 and 2 of the Ducks robbers. "LC" was accompanied on the site investigation by a driver Richard Blair, C.P.R. Special Service Detective W. F. Foy (McFoy) and F. E. Carter, one of the posse members from the beginning.

In an interview with the Vancouver Province (4 June 1908) B.C. Provincial Police Sup't Hussey gives Foy (McFoy) credit for assisting him in the investigation of the Ducks robbery.


In May 1906 Chief of Police Neil A. MCGILL408 was a Chief of Police in Kamloops, B.C. He was interviewed during Ducks robbery investigation. He commented upon Paul Stevens' character and that he was not trustworthy. McLeod, William, Letter to Marpole, and Report to C.P.R.'s McLaws by McLeod of Theil Detective Agency, "Ducks robbery investigation, Kamloops area witness statements" (Seavey, Thiel Detective Agency, Seattle, 21 June 1906)
Kamloops storeowner Mr. Brooks advised that he had never seen Stevens in his store before, but had seen him drive by a number of times, and knew his face but not his name. He said that he thought it very strange that the man should come in and make so large a purchase as Brooks had never before got any of the ranch trade. He went on to say that the Chief of Police (Neil A. McGill) of Kamloops came into the store just as Stevens was leaving, and Brooks asked the Chief whom he was. The Chief said he was Paul Stevens and that he had a bad reputation among the merchants in town and it would not be advisable to extend him credit.


Archie MCGILLIVRAY1,18,118 was born on 4 Jun 1829 in Ontario. In 1906 he was a rancher in Campbell Range, B.C. Mary Balf in her book, Kamloops to 1914, notes Archie McGillivray starting a farm up in the Campbell Range in the 1st decade of the 20th C.
There are two Archie McGillivrays in the 1907 Voters List. The one noted as a rancher in the Campbell Range is probably the one we want. The other is a stone mason at Monte Creek.

Archie appears in the 1901 Census as living by himself out in the Campbell Creek area.


A MCGREGOR was foreman of the jury for the second trial of the robbers and a member of the convicting jury.


MCINTOSH. New West Chief of Police McIntosh spots Miner, as George Edwards, in the Lytton Hotel in New Westminster in the fall of 1905. Miner was there two or three days while bringing (rustled?) horses from the Upper Country to Ladner.

McIntosh, Waddell and R.N.W.M.P. officer Wilson visit Miner in the B.C. Pen on 27 Jun 1907. (VDNA 18Feb09, p1)

NW Daily Columbian, 13 Feb 09, p1.
The paper detailed the debates in the House on the escape of Miner and the possible collusion of the C.P.R. In the investigation into the escape conducted by Inspector Dawson, Chief Constable (Chief of Police?) McIntosh is quoted as saying, according the Minister of Justice, that Miner told him Bullock (sp) said he (Miner) would be pardoned if he surrendered the Australian bonds. McIntosh said he repeated Miner's statement to, Bullock (sp) who replied that the only time he had seen Miner was when he visited the penitentiary in the company of Terry, at a time when the warden was present. The department had no further information regarding the bonds."
In the same issue and the same page of the paper, Chief of Police McIntosh, when shown the details of the Commons debate above, denied absolutely that he had made those statements to Inspector Dawson during the escape inquiry. Dawson had stated in his report that McIntosh had had Miner tell him that C.P.R. Detective Bullock (sp) had promised him his freedom on condition he surrendered the Australian bonds taken from the C.P.R. train at Mission in 1904. McIntosh adamantly stated that the only time he had spoken to Miner was in the company of Staff Sgt Wilson of the R.N.W.M.P. and Detective Waddell of Vancouver. He and Waddell accompanied Wilson when he visited Miner to obtain a release from Miner for an automatic pistol that had been taken from him during the capture at Douglas Lake in 1906.

Vancouver Daily News Advertiser 19 Feb 09
On his visit to the Pen with Wilson, McIntosh ripped out a page from his own notebook for Miner to sign an order freeing up the rifle (sic) to be passed on to Wilson. During the meeting, McIntosh asked Miner whether he hadn't seen him in the Lytton Hotel in New Westminster in the autumn before his arrest (fall 1905). Miner answered that he had indeed been there for two or three days when he had brought horses down from the Upper Country to Ladner
In a subsequent issue (Daily Columbian 3Mar04) the paper clarified the error. It had copied the information about McIntosh from the Vancouver Daily News Advertiser, and it was in error. The actual person who had testified to Dawson about Miner's meeting with Bullick and the Australian bonds was B.C. Pen Instructor McKenzie. The government attempted to criticize and embarrass Columbian publisher and MP Taylor for the error, but it backfired on them when they were accused of trying to dodge the "grave indictment against the department of justice."


Attorney Alexander Duntroon MCINTYRE13,113,156,157,281,286,349,409,410,411,412,413,414 was born in 1856 in Ontario.286,414 In 1906 he was a defence attorney in Kamloops, B.C.270,415 He is noted as being the "Judge of Revision of Assessment Rolls" for the Provincial Government in 1905, and by 1910 he is noted as being an "official administrator" and a partner in the firm "Macintyre and Murphy, (Alec D Macintyre and James Murphy" Barristers, Notaries Public.)" He was accused of entering into negotiations with Miner at the B.C. Penitentiary with regards to the fictitious C.P.R. bonds.  He died on 24 Jan 1934 in Kamloops, B.C.414 Mcintyre is buried alongside his wife Sarah, and another Mcintyre is noted on the same monument; a Christine Mcintyre, 1852-1936. Sarah died at 350 St. Paul Street in Kamloops. (Plot G-6-1) Alec Mcintyre was the most controversial lawyer of his day in Kamloops. He acted as defense lawyer in many of the most high profile trials of the first 3 decades of the 20th Century. He was often faced with Frederick Fulton as Crown Prosecutor, and indications are that though there was a mutual respect between them, Fulton was often frustrated by the antics of Mcintyre.

On Mcintyre's official letterhead, he does not have a capital "I" in his last name.

Mcintyre came to Kamloops in 1898 as an assistant to the lawyer Whittaker, and opened his own office the next year. In 1900 he was appointed Yale County Administrator, and was an ardent Liberal.
It was his dog that stole the famous ham from a butcher's store.

Mcintyre was married to Sarah Florence, who was also born in Ontario in 1857. She passed away in 1948 at the age of 93 years.

In the Kamloops Inland Sentinel of 1 Dec 1903, in an advertisement of a lot for sale, it notes that Mcintyre is partners with an Appelbe.

Kamloops Standard, 14 Dec 1904.
Mcintyre is noted as a prospective candidate for the Liberal nomination, and was in Ashcroft.

Kamloops Standard, 30 April 1904
Wentworth W. Wood, J. P., left for Nicola Lake yesterday afternoon to hold the preliminary hearing in the "Smoky" Chisholm shooting case. The man Brooks, who is charged with the shooting of the Similkameen "bad man" gave himself up to the authorities and will face the music for his action. A. D. Mcintyre, who has been retained by the prosecution (sic), accompanied Mr. Wood.

Kamloops Standard, 7 May 1904.
A. D. Mcintyre returned on Wednesday night from Nicola Lake where he appeared for the defense in the shooting scrape that put "Smoky" Chisholm out of business for a time. Chisholm has not yet been able to appear against Brooks but the latter was nevertheless committed for trial by Magistrate Gillie and Murray.

Kamloops Inland Sentinel, 10 May 1904, 1.
The Assizes.
In Rex vs Theriaut and Rex vs Brooks, both adjourned for the next assizes. (fall?) A. D. Mcintyre yesterday applied for and succeeded in securing the release of his clients on bail. That of Brooks, the defendant in the Chisholm shooting affair, was fixed at a moderate amount. His Lordship, commenting in strong terms on the unsavoury character of Chisholm condemning the reprehensible practice of men of his stamp carrying deadly weapons at all times and seasons.
(Miner was supposed to have attended the trial of one Smoky Chisholm before the Ducks robbery in 1906. Did he get acquainted with the skills of Mcintyre when attending Chisholm's trial? Was this what led to Mcintyre being defense counsel for the three robbers?)

Kamloops Inland Sentinel, Friday 7 Oct 04, p1
(The Fall assizes started in Kamloops on Thursday October 6th. The following is a verbatim transcript of the newspaper report of Friday 7th.)
"When Rex vs Brooks was called, Mr Macintyre (sp) for the defence asked for an adjournment until Friday morning as his client, out on bail, was under the doctor's care, but would be able to appear in the morning. This was agreed to, his lordship fixing the trial for 10 o'clock in the morning."
(Reporting on the Friday morning commencement of the trial continues.)
p2
"The case of Rex vs Brooks was then taken up, A.D. Macintyre (sp) appearing for the defence, Hon. F.J. Fulton conducting the case for the crown. The crown witnesses occupied all morning, the principal one being William, otherwise known as "Smoky" Chisholm, the man who was shot at the hands of Brooks. The defence does not attempt to deny the shooting but apparently relies on the self-defence theory. The case is still in progress on going to press, several witnesses for the defence being called. The whole affair seems to have arisen out of a drunken brawl in which none of the participants figure to any advantage."
p4
"City and Country"
"Hugh Hunter, mining recorder at Granite Creek, is in town, a witness at the assize in the Chisholm case."
(Hunter was undoubtedly residing in Princeton at this time, and was a constable with the B.C. Provincial Police. He could still have been the mining recorder for Granite Creek.)
""Judge" Murphy, of Princeton, is in town regaling his friends with tales of the hills, and incidentally attending the assizes as a witness."
(Who is Judge Murphy? Was he at the Chisholm-Brooks shooting at Mannings?)

Kamloops Standard, 8 Oct 1904, 1.
The Fall Assizes (Court of Assizes) in Kamloops opened under Mr. Justice Buff (?sp).
"In Rex vs. Brooks the accused was charged with wounding with intent and after a lengthy hearing the case which arose from a drunken brawl fell through and Brooks was dismissed."
(That same day, Hugh Hunter, mining recorder and constable from Princeton, was in Kamloops. Was this just a coincidence, or was Hunter attending the Brooks/Chisholm trial? The Sentinel's article makes it clear that Hunter was attending the trial as a witness. He probably played a role in arresting Brooks, and escorting him to Nicola after the shooting.)
(This was the Smoky Chisholm trial that Bill Miner as George Edwards was at in Kamloops. )

Kamloops Inland Sentinel, Tuesday 11 Oct 1904, p1.
"Brooks acquitted"
"The Jury Brings In a Verdict of Not Guilty"
"The assizes closed late on Friday night, the rendering of the verdict in the case against Brooks ending the criminal docket. The witnesses for the defence called in the afternoon included J. Thynne and others who were originally witnesses for the crown in the preliminary hearing, a tack, Mr. Macintyre, (sp) counsel for the defence, did not fail to emphasize. The main points sought to be established by the defence were the general good character of the ac cussed and the less reputable one borne by the crown's chief witness, the injured man Chisholm."
"The addresses to the jury were not lengthy, but his Lordship took an hour and ten minutes to carefully present an impartial summary of the case, the inclination being slightly against the prisoner. After being out nearly two hours the jury brought in a verdict of not guilty and Brooks was immediately discharged."
(Miner attended the trial of Smoky Chisholm's shooter, Brooks, before the Ducks robbery in 1906. Did he get acquainted with the skills of Mcintyre when attending Chisholm's trial? Was this what led to Mcintyre being defense counsel for the three robbers? Was Miner at Nicola during the preliminary hearings? The Nicola paper must be checked.)

Nicola Herald, Tue. 5 Sept 05
Kamloops lawyers Alec Mcintyre and John D. Swanson, later to play crucial roles in the trial of the three Ducks robbery bandits, advertised in this issue of the Herald.
Mcintyre was well known in Nicola Lake, having defended the shootist Brooks who shot Smoky Chisholm earlier in May 1904. Mcintyre successfully argued in the Nicola Courthouse for Brooks' bail.

The Vancouver World of 30 May 06 stated, "The defense has been marked by brilliant efforts on the part of lawyer Mcintyre and James Murphy, M. P. P. Standing room only is the sign at the courthouse, many people being unable to gain admittance."

Hedley Gazette.
Reel 3004
1905 to 1908
B.C. Archives
7 June 1906, p1
Good Stiff Sentences
(Reiterates the normal reporting of the trial, but then adds some flavour.)
Mcintyre wanted the case postponed, the venue changed and incidentally the earth. He gratuitously insulted Kamloops by contending that a fair trial could not be procured there and his language towards mail clerk McQuarrie made him a meritorious candidate for cowhide.”


In 15 October 1907, Inspector Douglas Stewart of the Penitentiary Service in Ottawa wrote to Inspector Dawson in New Westminster. Dawson was still continuing his escape inquiry, but now the small things were being addressed. Stewart, and the Minister, were concerned about the meeting held between Miner, Mcintyre, Bullick and an unknown early in 1907. Stewart writes of Mcintyre, "It is not likely that Mcintyre will give any correct information ..." It seems that Mcintyre's reputation for difficult behaviour and perhaps unscrupulous behaviour had proceeded him. (A. Martin Coll, Geo Edwards Corr File.)

In Nina Wooliams' "Cattle Ranch", she tells the story of the feud between Douglas Lake Cattle Co.'s Greaves and Alfred Goodwin of the Norfolk Ranch. In the subsequent trials of Goodwin which took place, McIntyre served as the defense lawyer. Mcintyre managed to get Goodwin's trial moved to the Spring Assizes in Vernon, where the jury was unable to come to an agreement. Mr. Justice Irving held the case over until the fall assizes in Kamloops in October and Goodwin was released on bail. In October the Kamloops jury returned a verdict of "Not Guilty." (???)

Goodwin's defense lawyer at the 1908 Fall Assizes in Kamloops was Alec Mcintyre, and the judge was Paulinus Irving. Both had held the same positions at Bill Miner's trial 2 years previously.
Indications formed from the following documentation infer that Goodwin had been kept in custody, at least part of the time, since his arrest.

Bourke letter in the 3 Mar 1909 Daily Columbian states that Terry, Bullock and Mcintyre met with Miner in the B.C. Pen prior to his escape.

(A. Martin Coll., Geo. Edwards Corr. file.)
On 6 May 1909, Warden Brown wrote to the Inspector of Penitentiaries for instructions on a matter pertaining to a garnishee order launched by lawyer Alex Mcintyre of Kamloops. Mcintyre claimed that $522.35 was still owed by Dunn and Colquhoun for services rendered at their defence in Kamloops.
Dunn adamantly refused the claim, stating that he had transferred to Mcintyre at the time of the trial in Kamloops, "mining property of value considerably exceeding the amount of Mcintyre's charge for defending the prisoners." Mcintyre at that time accepted that transfer of mining properties as full settlement.
Colquhoun also stated that he understood that the lawyer's fees were fully allowed for, and he refused to have what little money he did have, sent to him by relatives to fix his teeth which were in very poor condition, be confiscated to pay a lawyer's bill not considered appropriate nor warranted.
Further, the two prisoners stated that Mcintyre had visited them soon after their incarceration to discuss an appeal, and no mention had been made of monies owing at that time. Colquhoun recalled that the discussion at that time was how to arrange to raise $300 for an appeal for a new trial. Both prisoners refused to contribute to Mcintyre's garnishee order.
The file contains considerable more information on Mcintyre's attempt to get more money out of the prisoners, as well as to tap into the funds that Miner left behind, about $155.00. A summons to the County Court of New Westminster dated April 30, details the amount he wants, totaling $500.00 plus costs.
It appears that the judgement was successful, as the Registrar of the County Court ordered that all funds owing by the defendants to Mcintyre be attached to satisfy the monies owing to Mcintyre. If the small amount of money Dunn and Colquhoun had in their accounts, contributed to them for their daily living requirements by relatives and friends, was confiscated by the court to pay Mcintyre's probably scurrilous debt, it explains Shorty Dunn's adamant disillusionment with the prison system, and his perception that prisons do nothing but make a bigger crook out of prisoners, rather than rehabilitate them. Mcintyre's garnishee of the meagre savings that Colquhoun and Dunn had accumulated in prison must have been a devastating blow to their morale. It no doubt hastened Colquhoun's inevitable death of tuberculosis.

New Westminster Columbian 17 Nov 1909
In this issue the paper states that Miner will soon lose the one hundred fifty to two hundred dollars kept in the Dominion Treasury in his name to Mcintyre of Kamloops for reimbursement of his defense fees. The article states that Miner owed Mcintyre $500.00 in fees, and that he had never been paid for his services.

New Westminster Columbian 8 Dec 1909
By 8 Dec 1909, the paper states that a judgement was awarded to W. Norman Bole, K. C., on behalf of Mr Mcintyre, $528.85 including costs. Miner's account consisted of one hundred and forty-nine dollars and ten cents, plus some valuables and a gold watch. It is thought that Mcintyre did obtain the funds from the three robbers, but that Miner's gold watch and other valuables were kept in his name for some time into the future. That is, at least until he died, when his relatives could have claimed them.

Ruth Balf writes, "A.D. Mcintyre, prominent Kamloops lawyer since 1898, died in 1934. The Sentinel wrote that 'his methods belonged to another age, they were those of an opportunist, bent on a single purpose, the carrying out of his wish in court' He was considered an able lawyer, but was not popular with other members of his profession or the public."

In his Sentinel obituary of 26 Jan 1934, it notes that "None can take the place in legal circles of Alex D. Mcintyre who died Wednesday night after a residence here of 35 years. He bridged the old and the new pioneer with modern times. His practice was a criminal one and he held a remarkable number of successes due to the times."
The above seems to be a back-handed tribute to Mcintyre's law career. It appears to assert that Mcintyre would not have achieved the success in criminal court that he had if the law and the people's respect for it in the early days had not been flawed in some way.

Fetterly writes that Mcintyre "achieved a reputation as an able defence lawyer". Mcintyre had practised in Collingwood, Ontario and Toronto before coming to Kamloops.

The writer phoned and talked to Meryl Mathews, now 92, on 3 Sept 2004. Meryl says she was very young when she knew Mcintyre, and only to see him. He had an office in the old bank building where the CIBC is now. She remembered him as "a grumpy old man", who didn't dress as befitted a lawyer. He was rather scruffy and dirty. She remembered that he was known for taking on controversial defense cases, and equated him to two present day Kamloops lawyers.


Albert (Bert) MCKAY416 was born on 16 Sep 1891 in Armstrong, B.C. He was presented with a .22 cal. rifle by Bill Miner.  Albert McKay was Nellie's son from a previous marriage when she married Angus McKay. Albert McKay left behind written and taped memories of his friendship with Bill Miner.

Miner, as George Edwards, sent a letter to Albert (Bert) McKay 4 Mar 1906. Bert McKay was the young boy who Miner purchased the 22 rifle for. His brothers were Elmer and Edgar, and mentioned in Miner's letter.

 

Elvin MacDonald Interview, May 2006.

After Miner had been sent to prison, he supposedly sent Bert McKay another letter.  Unfortunately this has now been lost.

Elvin's relationship to Bert McKay was explained to the writer.  Angus McKay eventually married the widowed Nellie Tilton.  Angus had a brother named Donald.  Donald was Elvin's grandfather, and Angus was his great-uncle.


Bert McKay's mother, Nellie Tilton (Cyrus Tilton's sister) had been previously married and Bert was the son from this marriage. Nellie eventually married Angus McKay and had more children. Two of them, Elmer and Edgar, are mentioned in Miner's letter.

Nellie Tilton was previously married to a Charles Walter Williams, who is noted as marrying a Nellie Tilton in the Vernon District on 17 Jul 1890. Bert was born on 16 Sep 1891.
Bert's birth index entry notes him as Albert Edgar Williams.
A death search prior to 1900 for Charles Walter Williams does not come up with anything. Documentation notes that Nellie was a widow.

An email was sent to the Powell River Museum 31 Oct 2005 re Jack Montieth. Received a reply giving his son's name and address.
Ph'd him 17Nov05. He says his father died at 99 in the year 2000. His father and his friend, Don Keizer, spent considerable time researching Miner. They video and audio taped people all over the southern part of the province. Stayed in old hotels and visited the places Miner had been at. Interviewed 99 year old man in Surrey I was able to determine was Albert (Bert) McKay, who Miner had bought a 22 rifle for. Bob says his grandfather was a jury member at Miner's trial, but I can find no reference to a Montieth in either jury. Besides the 22 rifle story, McKay told them about the $1000 bank draft Miner tried to cash at the bank in Kamloops. The same incident is related by detectives when interviewing McKay Sr.
Bob said after his father died, he turned the video-tapes and audio-tapes over to his father's friend Don Keizer.

B.C. Archives Index:
Name: Albert Edgar Williams
Place Armstrong
Reg. Number:1891-09-557755
Date:1891 9 16 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event: Birth
Microfilm #:B13804 (GSU # 2115625)
Parents: Angus MCKAY Senior and Nellie Grant TILTON.


Angus MCKAY Senior15,43,417,418,419 Miner bought his son Bert a .22 rifle He was an old friend of Bill Miner from some time previous to 1904

 

Elvin MacDonald Notes, May 2006.

"This information was told to Jean McLeod by her mother, Aunt Nellie (Tilton) McKay.

"When travelling up the Fraser Canyon (1902 or 1903.  They were in Knob Hill - Armstrong area 1903). (This must be a date error, as the McKays appear in the Voter's List in Armstrong in 1898, and were probably there earlier than that. PRG)  At one point in the canyon the road was impassable.  They could go no further.  The wagon was taken apart and the Indians transported the wagon parts and supplies by large canoes further up the canyon.  I was told by Aunt Nellie the wagon was pulled by oxen.  Jean McLeod didn't remember ever hearing about the oxen.

 

Angus McKay Family Notes
From the 48th Annual Report of the Okanagan Historical Society. "Fred and Alice James. Their Early Years on the Commonage and Rose Hill", George James.
Angus McKay had a farm in Armstrong. Miner, as Edwards, helped them paper the inside of their house. On a trip across the border to the States, Miner sent back two .22 cal. rifles for Angus McKay's son Bert and his friend.
A few years later the McKay family moved to Rose Hill. Miner again turned up at their place there. He played his fiddle at social gatherings and moved about as just another drifter. He would ride the country roads with his pockets stuffed with candy for the farm kids.

McKay, Angus, Armstrong, Rancher, YE (1898 Voter's List)

From "Bunch Grass to Barbed Wire". George James anecdote.
Miner, as George Edwards, was well known to the McKay family, who had entertained him in their previous home in Armstrong. James also relates about the two large parcels arriving from the US. In each was a .22 rifle for young Bert McKay and his friend.  (Information straight from the Bert McKay tapes show there was not a second .22 purchased and sent by Miner.)
Miner apparently turned up at the McKay house in Rose Hill in about 1905. Also, some mention is made of Miner preaching at a Rose Hill "cottage church meeting", and that he played his violin/fiddle for the hymn singing.
James goes on to relate that at another church service held in the school he loaned his hat to take up the offering, and gave a young mother some rest by dangling her young baby on her knee.
James goes on, "Rumour has it, ..., that a local lad was to be waiting in a certain gully with horses for Miner and friends to make their escape but he "chickened out", giving the lines to another fellow who took the animals up the wrong gully."

Jean McLeod anecdote
Jean mentions her mother moving to Armstrong where later she would meet Angus McLeod. Nellie was then a young widow with a small son Albert, and they were later married in Kamloops. In 1904, after a number of moves and the births of three children they settled in the Rose Hill area. The choice grazing land they settled on had been part of William and John McLeod's ranching spread, and the McLeods were very upset. However, she and her brother Angus would go on to marry McLeods.
Jean mentions that her parents thought very well of Miner. She repeats that Miner once helped her mother paper a room. The McKays attended Miner's trial and just couldn't believe he was a train robber.
She also mentions the 22 rifle episode and then goes on to quote the Richmond Review of 25 Mar 1983. In it her brother Bert, at the age of 92, gives an interview about the incident, and that he also served as an advisor on the film "The Grey Fox".

On 18 May 1906, C.P.R. Detective Bullick made a series of interviews in the Kamloops area. He interviewed Angus McKay and McKay stated that on one of Edwards' visits to Kamloops last summer, he accompanied McKay to church one Sunday evening at a Mr. Cooper's house, which was about 4 miles from Kamloops. McKay saw that Edwards had a very large roll of bills, putting two dollars on the collection plate. McKay told Bullick that he thought that this was about the time that Edwards had cashed the one thousand dollar cheque that William Tilton mentioned.
McKay went on to tell Bullick that Edwards was in Kamloops this February past "with a $300 race horse and had lots of money." He was also in Kamloops a year ago last fall at the Smoky Chisholm trial, and about a year ago attended a mining trial in Kamloops related to the Princeton area.
Bullick noted that according to his investigations, Edwards had been in Kamloops at least nine times; staying at the Colonial Hotel. This was confirmed by Bullick interviewing A. LaPoint, the proprietor of the Colonial Hotel.

B.C. Archive Indexes:
Groom Name: Charles Walter Williams
Place Vernon District
Reg. Number: 1890-09-167017
Digital Image On-Line
Bride Name Nellie Tilton
Date: 1890 7 17 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event: Marriage
Microfilm #:B11387 (GSU # 1984108)

Groom Name: Angus McKay
Place Vernon District
Reg. Number: 1895-09-167737
Digital Image On-Line
Bride Name Nellie Grant Tilton

Date: 1895 11 28 (Yr/Mo/Day)
Event: Marriage
Microfilm #:B11387 (GSU # 1984108)
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Spouse: Nellie Grant TILTON. Angus MCKAY Senior and Nellie Grant TILTON were married on 28 Nov 1895 in Vernon, B.C. Children were: Albert (Bert) MCKAY, Angus MCKAY, Jean MCKAY.


Angus MCKAY. Parents: Angus MCKAY Senior and Nellie Grant TILTON.


Jean MCKAY. Parents: Angus MCKAY Senior and Nellie Grant TILTON.


D MCKENZIE420 was the proprietor of the Dominion Hotel in Chilliwack, B.C. in 1904 around the time of the Mission robbery. He had Edwards staying in his Dominion Hotel in the fall of 1904.

 

Chilliwak Progress, 14 Sept 1904
The Dominion Hotel, owned by D. McKenzie, had recently been renovated throughout. It had been painted, papered and cleaned. Rates $1 to $1.50 per day.

On 23 May 1906, the Thiel detective interviewed Mr McKenzie, owner of the Dominion Hotel in Chilliwak.
"McKenzie said he could show operative when he came here and his name on the register. He then showed operative the register containing the inscription: 'Geo. Edwards., Nov 27, 1904, room 18.' (Same source gives date as 24 November 1904.) He said this man remained five weeks. McKenzie said that when Edwards first came here he came from down the river. And that a day before Edward's arrival a man named Budd came down from Hope, B.C. with some horses he wanted to sell; that Edwards told Budd he had a friend down the river to whom he could take the horses. McKenzie said also that Constable Lane was here from Mission Junction about that time, looking for Budd. McKenzie picked out the picture of Geo. Edwards (the man now in jail in Kamloops) and said it was a picture of the man who came to his place on Nov. 27th, 1904. He said that Edwards always carried two big guns (he did not know what kind they were) and that he wore the same kind of hat that was shown on the photograph.

Mrs. McKenzie also picked out Edwards' photo from those operative showed her, and showed him the man's name on the register. She said that Edwards carried big guns, and that once when he showed her a large roll of money and a $1000 bill, she said to him: 'You hadn't ought to show your money. Someone will rob you'. And he answered: 'Not while I have this (showing one of his guns).' He posed as a mining man while stopping here. Mrs McKenzie said that Edwards showed her daughter a picture of a dancing girl tattooed on his arm."

McKenzie later went on (presumably out of earshot of Mrs. McKenzie) to describe when he and Edwards had sent to Vancouver for a case of liquor. Each of them paid for half the case. When it came in they took it to Jeff Harrison's barn where they and several others got drunk.
The next day, Edwards accused McKenzie of trying to find out who he was during the previous day's drinking bout; where he was from and where he got his money. Edwards threatened McKenzie and said that he had told the others he would not pick a fight with McKenzie, but would use these, placing his hands on his guns, and would shoot him and kill him on the spot.

Soon after Edwards left Chilliwak, Mr. McKenzie noted that he drove to Sumas City with three detectives and that there were detectives in and out of the hotel several times during the period that Edwards was around.

Billy McKenzie, presumably a relative (son?) of the hotel proprietor, mentioned that he had played cards with Edwards, and that Edwards would always sit with his back to the wall. He related that he saw Edwards with two $1000 bills, which he carried in the watch pocket of his trousers, and pinned up with a safety pin.


In Aug 1907 Instructor George MCKENZIE421 was an instructor and guard with the B.C. penitentiary in New Westminster, B.C.

 

Collection of Anthony Martin, B.C. Penitentiary Records, Escape Inquiry Files, 1907
On pages 46 to 49 of Dawson's Inquiry file, he narrates an interview he held with Instructor McKenzie. This interview would prove to be very controversial as it details the story Miner told him of the interview he had with his defence lawyer McIntyre, Inspector Bullick of the C.P.R. and probably, the outlaw Jake Terry. In Miner's story to McKenzie, (Feb 9, 1907) Miner relates how he stole the bonds from the C.P.R. during the Mission robbery, how he buried them as he couldn't determine how he should cash them, and how the C.P.R. had offered to assist him in obtaining a pardon if he would let them know the whereabouts of the bonds. He also tried to convince McKenzie that he should take a few days off and Miner would tell him where the bonds were hidden, and McKenzie could verify their existence.
McKenzie told Warden Whyte of Miner's bond story, and the warden said he knew all about it, so McKenzie didn't pursue it further.
McKenzie's testimony rings true, as it quotes Miner discussing things that were typical of the way Miner thought. However, the veracity of the story itself lends one to believe that Miner was making the story up for a number of reasons, not the least of which would be to put the C.P.R. in a bad light. He also told McKenzie that he had robbed the C.P.R. of thirty to forty thousand dollars in the Mission Junction haul, which flies against all the documentation.
The meeting with McIntyre and Bullick did take place, however Terry was not in the room at the time. Neither was any prison official. This was to lead to great consternation and rumour after Miner's escape.

In a March 1909 issue, the New Westminster Daily Columbian of 3Mar09 clarified an error. It had copied the information about (Chief of Police?) McIntosh testifying to Bullick's meeting with Miner from the Vancouver Daily News Advertiser, and it was in error. The actual person who had testified to Dawson about Miner's meeting with Bullick and the Australian bonds was B.C. Pen Instructor McKenzie. The government attempted to criticize and embarrass Taylor for the error, but it backfired on them when they were accused of trying to dodge the "grave indictment against the department of justice."

Collection of Anthony Martin, B.C. Penitentiary Records, Escape Inquiry Files, 1907
When Dawson held his inquiry into the escape, McKenzie testified that the convict Campbell had told him that convict Thomas F. Young had told him that he had held McNeil in conversation during the escape, and for a considerable period prior to that. As a result of McKenzie's testimony, convict Young was interviewed under oath.

McKenzie appears in the July 1914 group photo taken of the guards and officers of the B.C. Pen.


Elsie MCKINNON. Elsie was the first Matron of the Queen Victoria Cottage Hospital in Revelstoke in 1902. She had to leave this job when she and C.P.R. Superintendent Thomas Kilpatrick married in 1903.

Spouse: Divisional Superintendent Thomas D KILPATRICK. Divisional Superintendent Thomas D KILPATRICK and Elsie MCKINNON were married on 22 Apr 1903 in Revelstoke, B.C.

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